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“Masculinity, because of social stigma and social conditioning, tends more towards rugged individualism, like ‘oh I’ll figure it out on my own, I don’t need help,’ hence we isolate and it gets worse”
— Jason Van Orden

Have you ever chased a dream only to realize that it actually feels more like a nightmare?

Many entrepreneurs escape the corporate rat race to live life according to their own terms, only to realize years later that the one they’ve built is still far from fulfilling.

Today’s guest, Jason Van Orden spent over a decade helping thousands of thought leaders grow their influence by strategically turning their passions into viable revenue streams. He has studied top Internet influencers in order to decode the psychology and strategies they use to launch and grow world-class personal brands.

Jason launched over 60 online courses, taught more than 7000 entrepreneurs, generated 6 million dollars in online course sales, and 8 million downloads of his podcast. However, despite his outward success, Jason silently struggled with his own internal challenges that left him feeling apathetic, distressed, and unmotivated.

In a world where your social image increasingly dictates your success, Jason reveals the dark underbelly of influence and the pressure to project an external image of confidence while quietly struggling with depression.

Do you want to build a powerful brand? It starts with self awareness. So in this episode, we get real about facing fears, embracing vulnerability, and turning trauma and pain into your own creative genius.



In This Episode, You Will Learn:

  • How to launch a product with a tiny email list (04:04)
  • Why formal training in the online business atmosphere isn’t the most important thing (06:52)
  • Knowing when an idea or a side project has the potential to become a real business (10:52)
  • Launching 3 podcasts at the same time (15:54)
  • Making an impact versus just making money online (20:24)
  • Suffering from depression and from the shiny object syndrome (27:30)
  • Importance of being open about your fears (32:32)
  • Passions and causes that excite Jason today (48:17)
  • Taking something that causes us pain and turning it into something creative (53:25)
  • Plus much more...

Some Questions We Discuss:

  • What are the mistakes creative people make when trying to self-promote and market themselves? (08:43)
  • Does success come mostly from talent, hard Work or luck? (18:07)
  • What were the steps you took to treat the depression? (28:47)
  • Is it harder for men to share their vulnerabilities and insecurities? (37:41)
  • What are some of the projects that you are currently working on? (43:53)
  • What do you want your legacy to be? (46:04)

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